The 2016 Ski-Doo Summit TOP 10 List
Ski-Doo builds on the success of their T3 platform with the new 2016 Ski-Doo 800 Summit X T3. Dealer direct pricing for all the new Summits will be available at SNOWCHECKDIRECT.COM soon – sign up for email alerts to get the earliest Spring offers.
Top 10 Things to Know About the 2016 Ski-Doo Summits:
(1) Tunnel length heat exchangers extending under the seat to the end of the tunnel.
(2) All 800 Summit X models have the T3 package available in the 174, 163 and now 154″ lengths with a 3″ or 2.5″ lug (2.5 Option on 154″ and 163″ tracks only).
(3) NEW T-Motion adjustable limiter strap to control transfer and ski lift. (Sold separately)
(4) Burton Snowboards Edition Summit 154 with snowboard rack standard and a longer 2 up seat if you like to use your sled as a chairlift. It’s called the “Summit Burton”
(5) 3 or 4 Year Bumper to Bumper Warranty with Order/$500 Deposit.
(6) The 2016 Ski-Doo 800 Summit SP is available on Spring Order with the T3 package and the 2.5″ or 3″ lug options.
(7) The primary differences between the 800 Summit SP and the 800 Summit X models are the set of bogie wheels in the center on the SP and ice scratchers on the X. You get a taller bar riser and strait bars on the SP and shorter bar riser and curved bars on the X; but the overall height is the same.
(8) Summit SP is only 7 pounds heavier than X and $450 less expensive.
(9) The shocks are rebuildable on the on the X model, but basically have the same valving and ride characteristics as the shocks on the SP.
(10) The Retail Price on the Summit X T3 went down $50.00 from 2015 to 2016. (First Time Ever)
What feedback do you have for Ski-Doo on their new 2016 mountain sleds? Post your uncut comments below in “Leave a Reply”.
Last year, Ski-Doo caught everyone off guard by introducing a 3” paddle track on their new T3 configuration. This year, it only make sense that they will run away from the competition with a bigger motor. The rumors are running wild, a 2016 Ski-Doo Summit X T3 880 will be announced by Ski-Doo at their global reveal on Monday evening, February 23. It makes total sense, the Big Johns 880 kit for the Summit’s have been working so well. They are reliable, and add another 15 horsepower!
Sledrumors predicts the 2016 Ski-Doo’s will stick with the proven ETEC 800 Rotax. Sorry guys, the images of the snowcheck website with 880 and the Easter egg rainbow of color options are fake. This year, we will see some minor chassis improvements including shedding significant weight and an expansion of the T package improvements on the SP models, available as a T2.5. This could make the SP model 20 pounds lighter than the 2015 model.
If you were in the #dontwanttodestroymyhyfaxevery300miles camp and want to stick with the 2.5 track, 2016 is an awesome year for you. You can enjoy the new chaincase, chrome moly rear suspension, reversible ice scratchers, lighter track and a powder ski. 2016 will be a great year for the Summit with refinements and T package expansion, but no 880 this year.
Axys Chassis Debut in the Mountains of Alpine Wyoming
Better than Burandt?
IS an average mountain rider better on the Pro RMK Axys than professional rider Chris Burandt on his “old” 2015 Pro RMK? The thought that came to me riding the new 2016 Polaris Pro RMK 800, right after switching from the 2015 Pro was “I might now be a better rider than Chris Burandt on his 2015 Pro.” (with a huge grin)
Later, I got it stuck in a hole surrounded by trees. “Ha, That’s definitely not true.” Yep, I proved you can still get stuck on the immortal 2016 Pro RMK. I might have been the first to get the 2016 Pro RMK stuck. But I won’t be the last.
Not Fetched Up
My first ride on the 2016 800 Pro RMK out of Dan Adams, NXT Level Clinic’s shop, was exactly what I was hoping for. For me it was as big of an improvement as was the 2002 800 Polaris Edge RMK from my 2001 800 RMK in the Gen II chassis. A.D.D. MOMENT: I ran out of talent testing the prototype that year. I got carried away with the all new 151” track and yard sale’d it down a chute. Whoops, sorry Polaris.
All the stuff that feels so good on the Pro chassis is still DNA of the new Axys RMK chassis. The running boards, the handlebar orientation, the feel of the quick belt drive, it’s all there. Polaris did not fetch it up, they literally took the ProRMK to the “NXT” level.
The new 2016 Polaris 800 Pro RMK 155 is more powerful, more responsive and more controllable. It transfers the mood and personality of the rider right into the sled. What every mood your are in and regardless of what snow conditions are, you can make this sled do what you want it to do with less effort than ever before.
Jackrabbit on RockstarsIn fact, they made it better, a lot better. Best part….the button that turns on the power. Power is reeling out the track, in a hypersensitive way. It’s like they replaced the throttle lever with a control button that fires the power instantly to the track. I didn’t really notice hesitation before, but Polaris engineers made it more responsive. The new 2016 Pro RMK hops up on the snow like a jack rabbit revved up on Rockstars.
Like a Light Switch
Instead of mechanical gear drive, the electronically controlled oil pump gives the sled the sled what I call the “button throttle”. It’s as easy as pushing a NOS button and as responsive as a light switch.
168 HorsepowerThe 2016 Polaris Pro RMK 800 engine puts out 168 horsepower. DISCLAIMER: “At some dudes dyno shop somewhere on some day in some conditions.” Regardless of the numbers being thrown around, this sled is more powerful and more reliable – as proven on the flat-lander sleds the past season.
The devilish details include a lighter crankshaft, grooved pistons and 3-stage electronic exhaust valves. Polaris engineers fine tuned their power plant recipe to even the horsepower playing field with Cat and Ski–Doo. The dyno wars will be buzzing, but the real tests will play out on the mountain.
408 Pounds Strong
A-Arms. I know what your thinking, “Did they use more glue on the a-arms?” Or, “Are the a-arms going to fold at the first mogul now?” Nope. In fact, the new a-arms are forged aluminum. Lighter, check. Tougher, check.
Track. The all new track las mean, lean 2.6” lugs. More traction and even lighter than the 2.5.
SIDETRACK: Watch a guy bench press a 2016 Polaris 800 Pro-RMK (basically) CLICK HERE
Headlights. The new LED lights are lighter in both ways.
AXYS Platform. The new chassis is actually reinforced more at the weak points on the chassis making it stronger than the 2015 Pro chassis. But, they still managed to eliminate some plastic and make it even lighter.
Have Fun PretendingKudos to the engineering team at Polaris. 408 pounds made it a little easier to lift out of that treacherous hole in the trees. Now we’ll have even more power, lift and energy to boondoggle through the pow and pretend like we’re Chris Burandt.
Post by Jared Burt, Rexburg Motorsports
2016 Snowmobiles will be announced starting in February. Sled Rumors predicts some of the most significant improvements we have seen in years for the Class of 2016.
Watch for chassis improvements with improved ground clearance and a more narrow nimble chassis on 2016 Arctic Cat M8000 and 2016 Yamaha Viper Mountain models. Yamaha will the Cat out of the bag on February 25. We don’t expect Ski-Doo and Polaris to give anything less than exciting changes as well this year.
Launch Dates for 2016 Polaris 800 Pro RMK, 2016 Ski-Doo Summit T3, 2016 Arctic Cat M8000, 2016 Yamaha Viper Mountain:
Ski-Doo – February 23, 2015 SEE PREDICTIONS FOR 2016 SKI-DOO
Yamaha – February 25, 2015
Arctic Cat – Saturday, March 1, 2015
Polaris – March 2, 2015
Polaris Early Release: 2016 Polaris 800 Pro RMK First Ride Report CLICK HERE
Come back to sledrumors.com for first ride reports on the new 2016 mountain sleds and learn about test ride opportunities before you snowcheck your next ride.
This year, Black Friday deals on snowmobile gear will be some of the best ever; but you have to know where to find them. Use the code CYBERMON14 to get the super secret deals on DIRTCHEAPSNOW.
Christmas shopping for myself a few years ago, I hit the goldmine. The GoPro camera that was normally $300 was only $150 at the sled dealership for their Black Friday sale. Now days, most major brands have a MAP Policy (Manufacturers Advertised Price Policy) which prohibits dealers and online stores to offer/market their products below the retail price. Go Pro has a MAP Policy that requires an attorney to understand it.
This year, some of the best deals will be found online with newer snowmobile brands. These newer brands are more hungry to win us over. Here’s a list of three brands that are being aggressive for the holidays and some deals to look for:
1) FLY RACING – Fly racing is a moto company that is expanding to snowmobile gear. If you don’t want to plop down $1,500 for a set of high end gear like Motorfist or Klim; consider Fly. Fly Racing has jackets and pants that are good quality for around $200 to $300. DIRTcheapSNOW will have Black Friday Specials for as low as $150 for a jacket and pant.
2) EGO ACTION CAM – This is a Go Pro knock off. Normally, these retail for around $200. You will find them on DIRTCHEAPSNOW for only $89 during their holiday sale. DIRTcheapSNOW The best features to look for is Wi-Fi for simple connectivity and HD for clear recordings. Don’t forget to use the CODE: CYBERMON14 to get the big deals.
3) MOTORFIST – Motorfist is relatively new in the snowmobile industry. They came around 5 years ago with high end snowmobile gear with durability and waterproofing technology similar to what Klim brought to snowmobiling. However, Motorfist brought back the eVent technology that made Polaris clothing the most comfortable, breathable gear ever built (about 10 years ago). Motorfist pulled out some amazing Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals last year. This year, we’re expecting some more of the same.
2015 Ski-Doo Summit X 800R ETEC with T3
Ski-Doo revealed the 2015 sled lineup in Québec tonight. And, they have been busy perfecting the mountain sled. What’s the big news? T3. The 2015 Ski-Doo Summit X 800 REV-XM is available for Spring-Only buyers with an assembly of innovations called T3.
T3 – The Track
The new 3″ lug track in a 163″ or 174″ length is an industry first from a manufacturer. In fact, the cost to swap a 2.5″ track to a 3″ Camoplast X3 track this past year was anywhere from $1,000 – $1,500 – and it’ is a big upgrade to any of the mountain sleds.
This new PowderMax 3 Flex Edge track is a new lightweight design that a few magazine editors have already tested in West Yellowstone. Ryan Harris of SnoWest said of the 174″ track, it is designed to “take your time picking your lines and accessing stuff you’re not going to do on a 154.” Ski-Doo executive Sandy Scallion touts that the 174″ version is not a niche sled for the most extreme riders. In fact, it makes a intermediate or even a novice rider a more confident, better rider.
Maybe the Spring Fever program will come with a no-stuck guarantee.
T3 – Lightweight Innovations for Summit X
The T3 package includes new innovations from front to back that improve the ride, performance and weight. 16.1 pounds is what Ski-Doo engineers stripped off the Summit XM in order to make the 2015 Ski-Doo Summit X 800 174″ T3 to be the same weight as the 2014 Ski-Doo Summit X 800 163. How did they do it?
1. Exhaust – the T3 muffler is 5 pounds lighter
2. Spindles and A-Arms – the spindle is longer under the a-arms and they still lost 2 pounds
3. Chaincase and Drivers – the smaller drivers and new chaincase that is 1 1/2″ longer and lower and is 1 1/2 lbs lighter
4. Rear Rear Suspension – the arms on this new T-Motion version are chrome moly and there are no idler wheels gives us a net 3 lb weight loss
5. Track - the new 3″ design PowderMax has more windows and less rubber reinforcement on the edges losing just over 2 lbs
6. Heat Exchanger has a 50% smaller surface area and is 2.5 lbs lighter.
7. Pilot DS 3 skis – these have an optional powder tip (ski flotation extension) so you can tune your sleds to the snow conditions. The keel is 12mm deeper.
8. Ice Scratchers - the new ice scratchers are a little lighter and reversible
In addition to the T3 enhancement package for the Summit X, all the summits will come with the new RF D.E.S.S key that wirelessly connects instead of relying on getting a good tether connection – no more annoying beep.
T3 Exclusive for Spring Orders
Ski-Doo understands how to innovate and how to market. The X3 package is only available on the X models, and thus the way to get one is drop $500 on a Spring Order. The in-season 2015 Ski-Doo Summit SP will be the same as the 2014 with the new wireless key and color as the only changes.
Compared to the in-season orange SP model, the T3 X model is $900 more, but you also are adding the HPG Plus shocks. The T3 X is only $550 more than the orange X model with the 2.5″ track. Remember, the 2.5″ track version of the Summit X does not come with the other T3 enhancements either.
Spring Fever Program
This year more than ever, it is critical to place an order in the Spring with your dealer. Otherwise, it’s the same sled. All the new innovations in the T3 package have to be ordered in advance. If you wait for a “snow check back out”, you’ll probably pay a lot more to get if you do find one. If you don’t like the Sunburst Yellow color, find a full wrap to tone it down a bit. Yes, Polaris has 20,000 options and Ski-Doo has one color option. However, this year we can thank Ski-Doo for focusing on new innovations for the mountain sleds. I can’t wait to see what the 174″ track is like in a few feet of fresh pow!
Where to Buy? (Shameless Plug)
If you don’t have a dealer that is already exceeding your expectations (many do), log on to http://snowcheckdirect.com where you can configure your favorite mountain sled and get an individual price quote for your Spring Order.
SNOWCHECK OLD SCHOOL
Snowcheck is a term first used by Polaris in 1985 to order a snowmobile in the Spring with a $500 deposit. It used to mean that you got a gold colored name plate and a snowcheck jacket. The jacket was a way to show off that you would get one of the first of the new sleds. I remember snowchecking a 1998 Polaris 700 RMK and trading a 1997 Polaris 700 RMK for only $1,000 difference. $500 now and $500 to pick up the sled.
SNOWCHECK NEW SCHOOL
Today Snowcheck still means order the latest sled with a $500 deposit. All four manufacturers do it from March through the middle of April. They all have a different name for basically the same thing:
Polaris – Snowcheck
Typical Offers: Snowcheck Only Models, Extra Warranty, Low Interest Financing, Cash Discount
Arctic Cat – Spring Guarantee
Typical Offers: Spring Guarantee Only Models, Extra Warranty, Cat Cash
Ski-Doo – Spring Fever
Typical Offers: X Models with better shocks, Extra Warranty, Free Wrap, Cash Rebate
Yamaha – Power Surge
$2,000 Savings on Turbo or Extra Warranty and Special Financing
Because Polaris was first, all four programs are often referred to as “SnowCheck”.
TOP 10 REASONS TO THROW DOWN $500 ON SNOWCHECK
10 Trade Price
Many dealers will give more for your trade in the Spring vs Fall because they have more time to sell it in the Pre-Season. Also, you have 6 months to sell your trade for more than the dealer is willing to give.
9 Limited Sleds
Less than 1/4 of all sleds are sold through Snowcheck. The limited edition models stand out from the crowd. They are also easier to sell and bring higher values because they are more unique than the standard in-season models/colors.
Zero interest financing or low interest financing is often available on these programs. Just make sure your credit is good in September when you go to the dealer. Even when you have the cash, it’s nice to work off someone else’s money for a while.
7 Warranty Options
There’s probably a reason that sleds only come with a 12 month warranty. With snowcheck, extra warranty may be available. Beware, this may be an Extended Service Contract from a third party with a deductible on every repair. The best way to determine the value of the extra warranty is to talk to the Service Department and ask how well the Extended Warranty for that brand takes care of claims.
6 Exchange Options
Manufacturers may have a program available for a track exchange or windshield exchange program to make upgrades more affordable. Good dealers will work with snowcheck customers to offer a take-off credit towards the stock parts like ski’s and side panels. There should also be savings on installation because the dealer won’t have to install the stock ski’s, for example.
5 Factory Love
The manufacturers will capture your email when you give them the $500 deposit and mail or email you additional information to keep you in the loop on special offers or new accessories. They may even splurge and buy you a hat.
4 Early Availability
The Spring Order sleds are some of the first to go through the assembly line. Most snowcheck sleds are available at the dealership before the end of October. This gives time before the rush, to have it ready to go for the early rides in the Fall! Dealers do not stock every model in the lineup. Therefore, by snowchecking you are guaranteed it won’t be sold out or unavailable.
3 Accessories and Modifications
Yamaha has the most aggressive program with 2 grand off a turbo, but even the other brands have rebates or free accessories options that help cover the costs of add-ons. Most dealers will offer a discount on accessories that snowcheckers buy that are pre-ordered or picked up the same time as the sled.
2 Best Deal
In addition to the factory incentives, dealers are willing to take a smaller margin on a guaranteed sale next Fall. This way, they don’t have to do as much forecasting in their order. Many times the margin is only 5% on a Snowcheck Order compared to a 10% margin on the in-season deals.
1 Something to look forward to all summer!
If 5 or more of these reasons are important to you, then Snowcheck is probably the best way to buy a snowmobile.
Remember, don’t just snowcheck from a dealer just because they have the lowest price, first see the 10 Signs of a Great Snowmobile Dealer.